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| 297 | 297 | % the passband are not considered and might be excessive for excessively wide transitions widths introduced for filters with few coefficients. |
| 298 | 298 | Our criterion to compute the filter rejection considers |
| 299 | 299 | % r2.8 et r2.2 r2.3 |
| 300 | -the maximum magnitude within the stopband, to which the {\color{red}sum of the absolute values | |
| 300 | +the {\color{red}minimal} rejection within the stopband, to which the {\color{red}sum of the absolute values | |
| 301 | 301 | within the passband is subtracted to avoid filters with excessive ripples}. With this |
| 302 | 302 | criterion, we meet the expected rejection capability of low pass filters as shown in figure~\ref{fig:custom_criterion}. |
| 303 | 303 | |
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| 411 | 411 | linear or quadratic expression. To linearize this problem, we introduce $p$ FIR configurations. |
| 412 | 412 | This variable must be defined by the user, it represent the number of different |
| 413 | 413 | set of coefficients generated (for memory, we use \texttt{firls} and \texttt{fir1} |
| 414 | -functions from GNU Octave). So $C_{ij}$ and $\pi_{ij}^C$ become constant and | |
| 415 | -we defined $1 \leq j \leq p$ and the function $F$ can be estimate for each configurations | |
| 414 | +functions from GNU Octave). To choose this value, we consider a subset of the figure~\ref{fig:rejection_pyramid} | |
| 415 | +to restrict the number of configurations. Indeed, it is useless to have too many coefficients or | |
| 416 | +too many bits, hence we take the configurations close to edge of pyramid. Thank to theses | |
| 417 | +configurations $C_{ij}$ and $\pi_{ij}^C$ ($1 \leq j \leq p$) become constant | |
| 418 | +and the function $F$ can be estimate for each configurations | |
| 416 | 419 | thanks our rejection criterion. We also defined binary |
| 417 | 420 | variable $\delta_{ij}$ that has value 1 if stage~$i$ is in configuration~$j$ |
| 418 | 421 | and 0 otherwise. The new equations are as follows: |
| 419 | 422 | |
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| 432 | 435 | {\color{red} |
| 433 | 436 | However the problem still quadratic since in the constraint~\ref{eq:areadef2} we multiply |
| 434 | 437 | $\delta_{ij}$ and $\pi_i^-$. But like $\delta_{ij}$ is a binary variable we can |
| 435 | -linearise this multiplication if we can bound $\pi_i^-$. As $\pi_i^-$ is the data size | |
| 436 | -we define $0 < \pi_i^- \leq 128$ which is the maximal data size that we can process. | |
| 438 | +linearize this multiplication. The following formula shows how to linearize | |
| 439 | +this situation in general case with $y$ a binary variable and $x$ a real variable ($0 \leq x \leq X^{max}$): | |
| 440 | +\begin{equation*} | |
| 441 | + m = x \times y \implies | |
| 442 | + \left \{ | |
| 443 | + \begin{split} | |
| 444 | + m & \geq 0 \\ | |
| 445 | + m & \leq y \times X^{max} \\ | |
| 446 | + m & \leq x \\ | |
| 447 | + m & \geq x - (1 - y) \times X^{max} \\ | |
| 448 | + \end{split} | |
| 449 | + \right . | |
| 450 | +\end{equation*} | |
| 451 | + | |
| 452 | +So if we bound up $\pi_i^-$ by 128~bits to represent the maximum data size tolerated, | |
| 453 | +the Gurobi (\url{www.gurobi.com}) optimization software will be able to linearize | |
| 454 | +for us the quadratic problem so the model is left as is. | |
| 437 | 455 | } |
| 438 | -Moreover the Gurobi | |
| 439 | -(\url{www.gurobi.com}) optimization software is used to solve this quadratic | |
| 440 | -model, and since Gurobi is able to linearize, the model is left as is. This model | |
| 441 | -has $O(np)$ variables and $O(n)$ constraints. | |
| 456 | +This model has $O(np)$ variables and $O(n)$ constraints. | |
| 442 | 457 | |
| 443 | 458 | % This model is non-linear and even non-quadratic, as $F$ does not have a known |
| 444 | 459 | % linear or quadratic expression. We introduce $p$ FIR configurations |
ifcs2018_journal_reponse.tex
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| 74 | 74 | %REVIEWERS' COMMENTS: |
| 75 | 75 | |
| 76 | 76 | \documentclass[a4paper]{article} |
| 77 | -\usepackage{fullpage,graphicx,amsmath} | |
| 77 | +\usepackage{fullpage,graphicx,amsmath, subcaption} | |
| 78 | 78 | \begin{document} |
| 79 | 79 | {\bf Reviewer: 1} |
| 80 | 80 | |
| 81 | 81 | |
| 82 | 82 | |
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| 82 | 82 | %In general, the language/grammar is adequate. |
| 83 | 83 | |
| 84 | 84 | {\bf |
| 85 | -On page 2, "...allowing to save processing resource..." could be improved. % r1.1 | |
| 85 | +On page 2, "...allowing to save processing resource..." could be improved. % r1.1 - fait | |
| 86 | 86 | } |
| 87 | 87 | |
| 88 | 88 | The sentence was split and now reads ``number of coefficients irrelevant: processing |
| 89 | 89 | resources are hence saved by shrinking the filter length.'' |
| 90 | 90 | |
| 91 | 91 | {\bf |
| 92 | -On page 2, "... or thanks at a radiofrequency-grade..." isn't at all clear what % r1.2 | |
| 92 | +On page 2, "... or thanks at a radiofrequency-grade..." isn't at all clear what % r1.2 - fait | |
| 93 | 93 | the author meant.} |
| 94 | 94 | |
| 95 | 95 | Grammatical error: this sentence now reads ``or by sampling a wideband (125~MS/s) |
| 96 | 96 | Analog to Digital Converter (ADC) loaded by a 50~$\Omega$ resistor.'' |
| 97 | 97 | |
| 98 | 98 | {\bf |
| 99 | -On page 2, the whole paragraph "The first step of our approach is to model..." % r1.3 | |
| 99 | +On page 2, the whole paragraph "The first step of our approach is to model..." % r1.3 - fait | |
| 100 | 100 | could be improved. |
| 101 | 101 | } |
| 102 | 102 | |
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| 151 | 151 | %filters are really superior than monolithic filters. |
| 152 | 152 | |
| 153 | 153 | {\bf |
| 154 | -By observing the results presented in fig. 10-16, it is clear that the % r2.1 - fait | |
| 154 | +By observing the results presented in fig. 10-16, it is clear that the % r2.1 | |
| 155 | 155 | performances of multi-stage filters are obtained at the expense of their |
| 156 | 156 | selectivity and, in this sense, the filters presented in these figures |
| 157 | 157 | are not equivalent. For example, in Fig. 14, at the limit of the pass band, |
| 158 | 158 | |
| 159 | 159 | |
| 160 | 160 | |
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| 162 | 162 | We have added on Figs 10--16 (now Fig 9(a)--(c)) the templates used to defined |
| 163 | 163 | the bandpass and the bandstop of the filter. |
| 164 | 164 | |
| 165 | -We are aware of this non equivalence but we think that difference is not due to | |
| 166 | -the cascaded filters but due to the definition of rejection criterion on the passband. | |
| 167 | -Indeed, in this article we have choose to take the summation of absolute values divide | |
| 168 | -by the bandwidth but this criterion is maybe too permissive and when we cascade | |
| 169 | -some filters this impact is more important. | |
| 165 | +% We are aware of this non equivalence but we think that difference is not due to | |
| 166 | +% the cascaded filters but due to the definition of rejection criterion on the passband. | |
| 167 | +% Indeed, in this article we have choose to take the summation of absolute values divide | |
| 168 | +% by the bandwidth but this criterion is maybe too permissive and when we cascade | |
| 169 | +% some filters this impact is more important. | |
| 170 | +% | |
| 171 | +% However if we change the passband | |
| 172 | +% criterion by the summation of absolute value in passband, weighting given to the | |
| 173 | +% passband ripples are too strong and the solver are too restricted to provide | |
| 174 | +% any interesting solution but the ripples in passband will be minimal. And if we take the maximum absolute value in | |
| 175 | +% passband, the rejection evaluation are too close form the original criterion and | |
| 176 | +% the result will not be improved. | |
| 177 | +% | |
| 178 | +% In this article, we will highlight the methodology instead of the filter conception. | |
| 179 | +% Even if our rejection criterion is not the best, our methodology was not impacted | |
| 180 | +% by this. So to improve the results, we can choose another criterion to be more | |
| 181 | +% selective in passband but it is not the main objective of our article. | |
| 170 | 182 | |
| 171 | -However if we change the passband | |
| 172 | -criterion by the summation of absolute value in passband, weighting given to the | |
| 173 | -passband ripples are too strong and the solver are too restricted to provide | |
| 174 | -any interesting solution but the ripples in passband will be minimal. And if we take the maximum absolute value in | |
| 175 | -passband, the rejection evaluation are too close form the original criterion and | |
| 176 | -the result will not be improved. | |
| 183 | +We are aware of this equivalence but to limit this ripples in passband we need to | |
| 184 | +enforce the criterion in passband. If we takes a strong constraint like the sum of | |
| 185 | +absolute values in passband. This criterion si too selective because it considers | |
| 186 | +all bin on passband while on stopband we consider only the bin with the minimal | |
| 187 | +rejection. The figure~\ref{fig:letter_sum_criterion} exhibits the results with this | |
| 188 | +criterion for the case MAX/1000. With this criterion, the solver find an optimal | |
| 189 | +solution with only two filters in expend of the resource consumption. | |
| 177 | 190 | |
| 178 | -In this article, we will highlight the methodology instead of the filter conception. | |
| 179 | -Even if our rejection criterion is not the best, our methodology was not impacted | |
| 180 | -by this. So to improve the results, we can choose another criterion to be more | |
| 181 | -selective in passband but it is not the main objective of our article. | |
| 182 | 191 | |
| 192 | + | |
| 193 | +If we relax a little the criterion on passband with taking only the maximum absolute | |
| 194 | +value, we will penalize the ripple peak on passband. The figure~\ref{fig:letter_max_criterion} | |
| 195 | +shows the results for the case MAX/1000. There as almost no difference with the | |
| 196 | +article results. Indeed the only little change are on the case $i = 4$ and $i = 5$ | |
| 197 | +which they have some minor differences on coefficients choices. | |
| 198 | + | |
| 199 | +\begin{figure}[h!tb] | |
| 200 | + \centering | |
| 201 | + \begin{subfigure}{0.48\linewidth} | |
| 202 | + \includegraphics[width=\linewidth]{images/letter_sum_criterion} | |
| 203 | + \caption{Results for the case MAX/1000 with as criterion on passband the sum absolute values} | |
| 204 | + \label{fig:letter_sum_criterion} | |
| 205 | + \end{subfigure} | |
| 206 | + \begin{subfigure}{0.48\linewidth} | |
| 207 | + \includegraphics[width=\linewidth]{images/letter_max_criterion} | |
| 208 | + \caption{Results for the case MAX/1000 with as criterion on passband the maximum absolute value} | |
| 209 | + \label{fig:letter_max_criterion} | |
| 210 | + \end{subfigure} | |
| 211 | +\end{figure} | |
| 212 | + | |
| 213 | +Finally, if we ponder the maximum absolute on passband, we should improve the result. | |
| 214 | +We have arbitrary pondered by 5 the maximum. Even with this weighting, the solver | |
| 215 | +choose the same coefficient set. | |
| 216 | + | |
| 217 | +To conclude, find a better criterion to avoid the ripples on the passband is difficult. | |
| 218 | +In this article we are focused on the methodology so even if our criterion could | |
| 219 | +be improved, our methodology still the same and it works independently of rejection criterion. | |
| 220 | + | |
| 183 | 221 | % %Peut etre refaire une serie de simulation dans lesquelles on impose une coupure |
| 184 | 222 | % %non pas entre 40 et 60\% mais entre 50 et 60\% pour demontrer que l'outil s'adapte |
| 185 | 223 | % %au critere qu'on lui impose, et que la coupure moins raide n'est pas intrinseque |
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| 197 | 235 | % Dire que la chute n'est pas du à la casacade mais à notre critère de rejection |
| 198 | 236 | |
| 199 | 237 | {\bf |
| 200 | -The reason is in the criterion that considers the average attenuation in % r2.2 - fait | |
| 238 | +The reason is in the criterion that considers the average attenuation in % r2.2 | |
| 201 | 239 | the pass band. This criterion does not take into account the maximum attenuation |
| 202 | 240 | in this region, which is a very important parameter for specifying a filter |
| 203 | 241 | and for evaluating its performance. For example, with this criterion, a |
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| 206 | 244 | and in the results that are obtained and has to be reconsidered. |
| 207 | 245 | } |
| 208 | 246 | |
| 209 | -See above: If we choose the maximum absolute value in passband, we penalize the | |
| 210 | -case with 10 dB of ripple. | |
| 247 | +See above: Choose a criterion is difficult and depending on the context. The main | |
| 248 | +contribution on this paper is the methodology not the criterion to quantify the | |
| 249 | +rejection. | |
| 211 | 250 | |
| 212 | 251 | % The manuscript erroneously stated that we considered the mean of the absolute |
| 213 | 252 | % value within the bandpass: the manuscript has now been corrected to properly state |
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| 231 | 270 | % TODO: test max(stopband) - max(abs(passband)) |
| 232 | 271 | |
| 233 | 272 | {\bf |
| 234 | -In addition, I suggest to address the following points: % r2.4 | |
| 273 | +In addition, I suggest to address the following points: % r2.4 - fait | |
| 235 | 274 | - Page 1, line 50: the Authors state that IIR have shorter impulse response |
| 236 | 275 | than FIR. This is not true in general. The sentence should be reconsidered. |
| 237 | 276 | } |
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| 248 | 287 | minimized to avoid oscillation conditions.'' |
| 249 | 288 | |
| 250 | 289 | {\bf |
| 251 | -- Fig. 4: the Author should motivate in the text why it has been chosen % r2.5 | |
| 290 | +- Fig. 4: the Author should motivate in the text why it has been chosen % r2.5 - fait | |
| 252 | 291 | this transition bandwidth and if it is a typical requirement for phase-noise |
| 253 | 292 | metrology. |
| 254 | 293 | } |
| 255 | 294 | |
| 256 | 295 | |
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| 279 | 318 | {\bf |
| 280 | 319 | - Page 3, line 47: the initial criterion can be omitted and, consequently, % r2.7 - fait |
| 281 | 320 | Fig. 5 can be removed. |
| 321 | +} | |
| 322 | + | |
| 323 | +Juste mettre une phrase pour dire que la mean ne donnait pas de bons résultats | |
| 324 | + | |
| 325 | +{\bf | |
| 282 | 326 | - Page 3, line 55: ``maximum rejection'' is not compatible with fig. 4. % r2.8 - fait |
| 283 | 327 | It should be ``minimum'' |
| 284 | 328 | } |
| 285 | -AH: Je ne suis pas d'accord, le critère n'est pas le min de la rejection mais le max | |
| 286 | -de la magnitude. J'ai corrigé en ce sens. | |
| 287 | 329 | |
| 288 | -Juste mettre une phrase pour dire que la mean ne donnait pas de bons résultats | |
| 330 | +This typo has been corrected. | |
| 289 | 331 | |
| 290 | 332 | {\bf |
| 291 | 333 | - Page e, line 55, second column: ``takin'' % r2.9 - fait |
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| 309 | 351 | functions from GNU Octave)'' |
| 310 | 352 | |
| 311 | 353 | {\bf |
| 312 | -- Page 4, line 31: how does the delta function transform model from non-linear % r2.13 - fait | |
| 354 | +- Page 4, line 31: how does the delta function transform model from non-linear % r2.13 | |
| 313 | 355 | and non-quadratic to a quadratic?} |
| 314 | 356 | |
| 315 | 357 | The first model is non-quadratic but when we introduce the $p$ configurations, |
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| 335 | 377 | simple. However, to improve the transformation explanation we have rewrote the |
| 336 | 378 | paragraph ``This model is non-linear and even non-quadratic...''. |
| 337 | 379 | |
| 338 | -JMF : il faudra mettre une phrase qui explique, ca en lisant cette reponse dans l'article | |
| 339 | -je ne comprends pas comment ca repond a la question | |
| 340 | - | |
| 341 | -AH: Je mets l'idée en français, je vais essayer de traduire ça au mieux. | |
| 342 | - | |
| 343 | -Le problème n'est pas linéaire car nous multiplions des variables | |
| 344 | -entre elles. Pour y remédier, on considère que $\pi_{ij}^C$ et que $C_{ij}$ deviennent | |
| 345 | -des constantes. On introduit donc la variable binaire $\delta_{ij}$ qui nous indique | |
| 346 | -quel filtre est sélectionné étage par étage. Malgré cela, notre programme est encore | |
| 347 | -quadratique car pour la contrainte~\ref{eq:areadef2}, il reste une multiplication entre | |
| 348 | -$\delta_{ij}$ et $\pi_i^-$. Mais comme $\delta_{ij}$ est binaire, il est possible | |
| 349 | -de linéariser cette multiplication pour peu qu'on puisse borner $\pi_i^-$. Dans notre | |
| 350 | -cas définir la borne est facile car $\pi_i^-$ représente une taille de donnée, | |
| 351 | -nous définission donc $0 < \pi_i^- \leq 128$ car il s'agit de la plus grande valeur | |
| 352 | -qu'on puisse traiter. De plus nous utiliserons Gurobi qui se chargera de faire la | |
| 353 | -linéarisation pour nous. | |
| 380 | +% JMF : il faudra mettre une phrase qui explique, ca en lisant cette reponse dans l'article | |
| 381 | +% je ne comprends pas comment ca repond a la question | |
| 382 | +% | |
| 383 | +% AH: Je mets l'idée en français, je vais essayer de traduire ça au mieux. | |
| 384 | +% | |
| 385 | +% Le problème n'est pas linéaire car nous multiplions des variables | |
| 386 | +% entre elles. Pour y remédier, on considère que $\pi_{ij}^C$ et que $C_{ij}$ deviennent | |
| 387 | +% des constantes. On introduit donc la variable binaire $\delta_{ij}$ qui nous indique | |
| 388 | +% quel filtre est sélectionné étage par étage. Malgré cela, notre programme est encore | |
| 389 | +% quadratique car pour la contrainte~\ref{eq:areadef2}, il reste une multiplication entre | |
| 390 | +% $\delta_{ij}$ et $\pi_i^-$. Mais comme $\delta_{ij}$ est binaire, il est possible | |
| 391 | +% de linéariser cette multiplication pour peu qu'on puisse borner $\pi_i^-$. Dans notre | |
| 392 | +% cas définir la borne est facile car $\pi_i^-$ représente une taille de donnée, | |
| 393 | +% nous définission donc $0 < \pi_i^- \leq 128$ car il s'agit de la plus grande valeur | |
| 394 | +% qu'on puisse traiter. De plus nous utiliserons Gurobi qui se chargera de faire la | |
| 395 | +% linéarisation pour nous. | |
| 354 | 396 | |
| 355 | 397 | |
| 356 | 398 | {\bf |
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